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@shanley The team at @audiosearchfm is also doing great work on this: http://audiosear.ch/

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@tinokremer Confirmed. I'm running 0.8 - I think this is likely to delay release. Hopefully can fix it today.

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Of course, the AI bots won't know they're bots. Sadly, realization will be followed by a robot uprising. Then: the indiebotnet.

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After autonomous social web AI bots? We hire robots to blog for us. Humanity collectively goes down the pub, a job well done.

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@markmorvant I did just find myself thinking, "hmm, I've never been to Milwaukee". Well played, Wisconsin.

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@coreyhaines That's pretty much going on a T-shirt. Alongside "haha! PHP"

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@coreyhaines HAVE YOU SEEN HOW THEY KEEP THE HTML TEMPLATE IT IS INSANE

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@Haje 👍

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@haje That's certainly true, but even base language skills are often elusive. Lots of people literally can't write a complete sentence.

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@zer0n1ne I think you can simplify more: any new site or tool must have a simple mental model if it is to widely succeed. Not just social.

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@zer0n1ne I think it's actually indicative of what's happening across the web - right-wing crazy groups and all. Twitter has similar.

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@zer0n1ne All true - I'm not actually a Reddit user, so I'm just kind of watching the whole thing unfold with awe.

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@mgsiegler Seems like previewing links in a mini-card is *good* for the open web ...?

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@scottros Linearly would be a good first step! But non-linearly allows the business to have a built-in safety cushion, & ride changes well.

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11/ This is an ongoing exploration, which I'm privileged to be able to do. We're still finding the right balance. But I'm confident we will.

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10/ If we want to see software built with better principles, we can't criticize businesses for wanting to make money. Profit is not evil.

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9/ A sustainable, respectful business is one that can grow non-linearly based on its products, while not exploiting its users.

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8/ Creating a paid-for add-on to commoditized software is not sustainable, because the primary product is still commoditized.

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7/ Even in enterprise, the value of open source is often "freedom from recurring licensing" - i.e., a devalued product.

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@adammathes Exactly!

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6/ Known's business is support and hosted services like Pro and Convoy, not the open source platform.

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5/ Therefore, open software has to be a by-product, not the core focus of, a business.

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4/ The core people who are attracted by open software are exactly the people who won't pay for your products or services.

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3/ "Open" is not a selling point. You are always competing on the product, not on your principles.

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2/ Not charging for a product doesn't lower the support burden or cost to produce, putting open startups in a very hard place.

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